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	<title>Comments for Ripples in the Ether</title>
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		<title>Comment on Catching Up With Etherkit by Dave Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I see it, the only way we can turn the clock back on the issue of offshoring is if large numbers of Americans decide that they are willing to pay significantly more for their products, or collectively agree to a much lower minimum wage.

I&#039;m not holding my breath waiting for either of those to happen :-)</description>
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<p>I'm not holding my breath waiting for either of those to happen <img src='http://www.nt7s.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Catching Up With Etherkit by Jason Milldrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Milldrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie,

There are a few places in the US that manufacture PCBs, but they are getting pretty scarce. I do have some sensitivity to the issue of offshoring. One of my first jobs out of high school was working at the local PCB factory in my hometown of Dallas, OR by the name of Praegitzer Industries. Dallas is a pretty small town, and at the time that I worked there, I believe that the factory was the largest employer in town. A few years after I left there, the factory was purchased from its local owner by Tyco. Then a few years after that it was shutdown.

More recently, I was witness to almost all of my colleagues at Tektronix in the manufacturing areas (Bldg. 19) get laid off as their jobs were sent to the China plant. I don&#039;t enjoy that happening, but there&#039;s at least one reason cited by management that made a lot of sense to me. The &quot;center of gravity&quot; of electronics manufacturing has shifted almost completely to China. Just about every supplier is either in China or close by in the Asia-Pacific region. It does make a lot of logistics sense to have operations close to all of the supporting infrastructure.

In my case, I&#039;m operating on a shoestring budget and have to get the absolute most bang for my buck. The last batch of PCBs which I had made (the code practice oscillator) cost me a grand total of $9.90 plus about $15 shipping for 10 boards. On the batch of boards that I had made before that, my setup costs alone cost 5x that much money. I have yet to find any domestic operations which cater to hobbyists and small businessmen such as myself, and can offer that kind of an inexpensive rate. Such low costs on prototype boards means that I can iterate my designs much cheaper and quicker than I could in the past, which means better product development and less chance of me blowing hundreds of dollars if I screw up something in the PCB design (which I did a couple of times in the past as I taught myself PCB design).

If and when a domestic operation ever gets close to this kind of price point and can offer the same kind of convenience in ordering, then I will be happy to use them. Unfortunately, right now I haven&#039;t found such a place. 

Sorry for the long-winded rant,
Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie,</p>
<p>There are a few places in the US that manufacture PCBs, but they are getting pretty scarce. I do have some sensitivity to the issue of offshoring. One of my first jobs out of high school was working at the local PCB factory in my hometown of Dallas, OR by the name of Praegitzer Industries. Dallas is a pretty small town, and at the time that I worked there, I believe that the factory was the largest employer in town. A few years after I left there, the factory was purchased from its local owner by Tyco. Then a few years after that it was shutdown.</p>
<p>More recently, I was witness to almost all of my colleagues at Tektronix in the manufacturing areas (Bldg. 19) get laid off as their jobs were sent to the China plant. I don't enjoy that happening, but there's at least one reason cited by management that made a lot of sense to me. The "center of gravity" of electronics manufacturing has shifted almost completely to China. Just about every supplier is either in China or close by in the Asia-Pacific region. It does make a lot of logistics sense to have operations close to all of the supporting infrastructure.</p>
<p>In my case, I'm operating on a shoestring budget and have to get the absolute most bang for my buck. The last batch of PCBs which I had made (the code practice oscillator) cost me a grand total of $9.90 plus about $15 shipping for 10 boards. On the batch of boards that I had made before that, my setup costs alone cost 5x that much money. I have yet to find any domestic operations which cater to hobbyists and small businessmen such as myself, and can offer that kind of an inexpensive rate. Such low costs on prototype boards means that I can iterate my designs much cheaper and quicker than I could in the past, which means better product development and less chance of me blowing hundreds of dollars if I screw up something in the PCB design (which I did a couple of times in the past as I taught myself PCB design).</p>
<p>If and when a domestic operation ever gets close to this kind of price point and can offer the same kind of convenience in ordering, then I will be happy to use them. Unfortunately, right now I haven't found such a place. </p>
<p>Sorry for the long-winded rant,<br />
Jason</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catching Up With Etherkit by Jamie KL7WP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie KL7WP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are your PCBs made in China? Does anyone in USA make PCBs? Just wondering!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are your PCBs made in China? Does anyone in USA make PCBs? Just wondering!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catching Up With Etherkit by Jamie KL7WP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie KL7WP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why PCBs made in China??? Does anyone is USA do this?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Ringing in the New Year with K3Y/7 by JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan 15th; Nice to work K3Y/7 on 21.050 with my 5-watts QRP.
73 de W6CJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan 15th; Nice to work K3Y/7 on 21.050 with my 5-watts QRP.<br />
73 de W6CJ</p>
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		<title>Comment on SOTA Fail on Clatskanie Mountain by Dave Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A detailed and enjoyable account of your mini expedition Jason. Sounds like you had quite a workout and excellent company, so at least the non-radio part of the day was a complete success!

Isn&#039;t it amazing listening to the radio up and away from all the QRM? I did notice my 817 getting breakthrough from some nearby hill-top transmitters when I operated from Vollmer Peak in the hills overlooking Berkeley but other than that, the reception was ear-opening.

I&#039;m very curious as to why you weren&#039;t getting out that well though. Big head-scratcher, that one. Perhaps some experienced mountain-top operator can give us some insight.

Looking forward to your next radio outing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A detailed and enjoyable account of your mini expedition Jason. Sounds like you had quite a workout and excellent company, so at least the non-radio part of the day was a complete success!</p>
<p>Isn't it amazing listening to the radio up and away from all the QRM? I did notice my 817 getting breakthrough from some nearby hill-top transmitters when I operated from Vollmer Peak in the hills overlooking Berkeley but other than that, the reception was ear-opening.</p>
<p>I'm very curious as to why you weren't getting out that well though. Big head-scratcher, that one. Perhaps some experienced mountain-top operator can give us some insight.</p>
<p>Looking forward to your next radio outing!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ringing in the New Year with K3Y/7 by Jason Milldrum</title>
		<link>http://www.nt7s.com/blog/2009/01/ringing-in-the-new-year-with-k3y7/comment-page-1/#comment-704</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Milldrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 02:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, if you are talking about a QSO from this year, then it must have been with a different op. I haven&#039;t done any SKCC activity in a few years.

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, if you are talking about a QSO from this year, then it must have been with a different op. I haven't done any SKCC activity in a few years.</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ringing in the New Year with K3Y/7 by Gary kg6wkm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary kg6wkm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 00:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry wasn&#039;t able to get all yr qsl, first time on 30 met. Yes I need to join the skcc straight key  club. agn sry wish I could have done better.</description>
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		<title>Comment on SOTA Fail on Clatskanie Mountain by Jason Milldrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Milldrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 05:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys! Don&#039;t get me wrong, I had a really good time, regardless of the SOTA status. It was great just to get away from kid-sitting duty and do something adult-like for once! Larry is 100% right. To borrow the saying, the worst day of playing radio is still better than the best day at work. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys! Don't get me wrong, I had a really good time, regardless of the SOTA status. It was great just to get away from kid-sitting duty and do something adult-like for once! Larry is 100% right. To borrow the saying, the worst day of playing radio is still better than the best day at work. <img src='http://www.nt7s.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on SOTA Fail on Clatskanie Mountain by Dave W8NF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave W8NF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 01:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Larry.  Jason, it was the best outdoor adventure I&#039;d had since Field Day.  I needed something to kick myself out of my complacency and get outdoors.

73, Dave W8NF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Larry.  Jason, it was the best outdoor adventure I'd had since Field Day.  I needed something to kick myself out of my complacency and get outdoors.</p>
<p>73, Dave W8NF</p>
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